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    The Tragedy of Indian Muslims

    The veneer of secularism is nothing but deceptive tools of Dhotis, although their-created multi-layer to hide it resembles the perfection of one's games.


    The Tragedy of Indian Muslims
    Publication time: 3 November 2006, 22:43

    In the Delhi based Urdu daily Qaumi Awaz of November 15, 1994, a Muslim intellectual wrote that the Indian Muslims suffered from a persecution complex. Theirs was a psychology of deprivation which demoralized them, and rendered them unfit for any positive struggle.



    Most of us would concede the truth of this statement. Just before reading this analysis, I had occasion to ask a student of the Aligarh Muslim University how his fellow students felt about this state of affairs. He replied that everyone was haunted by the fear of there being no scope for them in India. It was a fear which loomed large on everyone's horizon. During the previous two years, on extensive travels throughout the length and breadth of the country, I had heard the same tales. Everywhere Muslims were in the grip of fear and despondency.Despondency is held unlawful in Islam. The Qur'an is explicit on this point: ‘No one despairs of God's mercy except those who have no faith' (12:87). According to early commentators on the Qur'an, in particular, Qatada and Zahhak, despondency is counted among the major sins (Tafsir-e- Qurtubi 9/252).



    Yet, here, we have an entire community falling a prey to frustration. How do we explain a community, which has successfully distanced itself from major sins - even in the world of today - being caught up in this particular sin?



    Having thoroughly mulled over this question, I have to conclude, ultimately, that it is, in fact, our incompetent Muslim leaders who are to blame for this uncalled for tragedy. These so called leaders have repeatedly led Muslims in the direction of goals which were unattainable. With such a goal placed before them as realistic and achievable, Muslims would rise with great zeal and fervor to the task. But they would finally discover that, despite their struggles and their sacrifices, they had achieved nothing. Continuous failures on every front pushed them to the extremes of despondency. Consciously or unconsciously, they came to feel that they had no future in this country. A close examination of the actual state of affairs will reveal, however, that it was in fact their own attitude and approach to problems which were out of place in God's world. If they lacked opportunities, they felt that they were being denied them because of discrimination and prejudice.



    They came to the conclusion that there were no opportunities for them in this country, without stopping to consider that this might only seem so as a result of their own misguided or ill-considered course of action.



    A major contributor to this mindset was Iqbal, the poet. His were the flights of poetic imagination which encouraged Muslims to slip into unrealistic thinking. In thrall to his guidance, appreciative leaders and intellectuals began with great zeal to disseminate his poetic message. Thrilled by the eloquence of his words, a gullible public heard and accepted a ‘message which bore no relation to reality.



    Iqbal's message to the people was: "Allah ke sheron ko aati nahin rubahi" (God's lions know no cowardice). Statements like this caught the imagination of the people, without their realizing that no such lions existed in the world of God. They did not pause to consider that the lions of the jungle created by God never spared even a thought for the heroic deed, for all their instincts led them along the path of avoidance - call it cowardice, or call it good sense. However, by setting up Iqbal's imaginary lion as an ideal, - "Well said, Iqbal!" - Muslims have opted for the path of conflict and confrontation on the mistaken premise that this is what is meant by bravery, and that what they are doing amounts to a jihad (crusade).



    For instance, when Hindus lead processions through the streets, there are generally certain aspects of them which are displeasing to Muslims. A sure solution to all this unpleasantness is be the pursuance of the policy of avoidance as a wise strategy. But under the influence of Iqbal, Muslims feel that such a policy smacks of cowardice. So, holding up their imaginary lion as an ideal, they set themselves on a collision course with the processionists. The result is bloody, communal rioting.

    Muslims adopt the way of the "lion" on the assumption that their action would boost the morale of the whole community. But such an action always proves to be counter-productive, because now we have a situation in which Muslims feel that their lives and property are no longer secure in their own country. And the degree of frustration they suffer on that score has if anything been intensified.

    The most notorious experiment along these lines was, of course, their demand-at the urging of their great leader Jinnah-for the division of the country in 1947, so that the separate state of Pakistan might come into existence. They were told that once a powerful Muslim state was in position at the Indian border, it would act as a strong safeguard for all their rights in India.



    At the cost of enormous sacrifices on the part of Indian Muslims, Pakistan came into being. Instead of decreasing, however, their problems only increased. This was because their lawyer Leader was blissfully unaware of the fact that the emergence of a strong Muslim state across the border after independence would necessarily be paralleled by the emergence of a strong Hindu state. It was this fatal miscalculation of the development of future events which brought Muslim expectations tumbling to the ground. Even then, incompetent Muslim leaders failed to learn their lesson from this tragic experiment, and continued to make mistakes of the same nature.



    A whole horde of Muslim leaders, led by Dr Abdul Jalil Faridi, came on the scene in the wake of 1965-66 general elections. By making fiery speeches, they succeeded in rallying Muslims under the banner of the "politics of agreement." Muslims thronged to join this political campaign, and after entering into electoral agreements with opposition parties, they gave them their vote. In this way, the Congress was ousted. But when these newly elected governments were formed, Muslims found to their horror that they were even worse off than they had been under Congress rule. This entire edifice of hope-barely erected-soon collapsed.



    Similarly, when the Babari Mosque issue came into the limelight in 1986, Syed Shahabuddin conceived the far-fetched idea that it should be projected beyond its local significance and turned into an all-India issue. He thought that in this way the problem would be solved. Almost all of the religious and secular leaders extended their full support to Mr. Shahabuddin on this score. The entire country reverberated with public meetings and processions designed to achieve this goal.



    What happened, in fact, was that once the entire Muslim minority had been aroused over the Ayodhya issue, the entire Hindu majority became united in their repudiation of Muslim demands. In the ensuing confrontation, the scales were bound to tilt in favor of this overwhelming Hindu majority. Forcing their entry into the Babari mosque, they razed it to the ground. No Muslim leader dared enter Ayodhya to put a stop to the destruction, and if failing to emerge victorious, be martyred.



    The tragic incident of December 6 has pushed Muslims back into the deep dungeon of despondency. What is worse is that this time their feelings of frustration are accompanied by a deep sense of humiliation.

    Now a new group of the so-called Muslim intellectuals has emerged on the horizon of the Muslim community. Their gambit is to make an issue of reservation for Muslims in government services, as if that were some kind of master card which would solve all Muslim problems. Urdu dailies have been publishing their articles and statements to this effect couched in high flown language, and once again, Muslims are thronging to listen to their rabble-rousing speeches.



    Muslims form fifteen per cent of the country's population. So they demand that Muslims should be given the same percentage of reservations in government services. I have no doubt that this is asking for the impossible. Even supposing, for the sake of argument, that the government, by legislation or presidential decree, ensured fifteen percent reservations in government jobs for the Muslim community, it would, in practice, be impossible for enough Muslims to come forward to fill these posts.



    What is actually going to take place is the massive rallying of Muslims to the chant of high-sounding reservation slogans. There will be a demonstration of the rhetorical power of the leaders. Then, after a long period of hectic activity, it will ultimately dawn on these Muslims that they have given time, energy and money to support these feverish campaigns, but that they have in no way benefited from them.



    To lead the community in pursuit of unattainable goals is a dastardly and inimical act: such hot pursuits lead not to the heights of success but to the depths of despair.



    It is high time that Muslims understood the bitter truth. They should carve out their future on the basis of facts and reason, and not in a welter of emotion and sentiment. They should live like real lions created by God and not like the imaginary lions of poets' creation. What solved their problems in the past is what will solve their problems as a community today. No alternative solution is forthcoming in the reality of today's world.



    Wahiduddin Khan

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    I think that the writer of this piece is Maulana Wahiduddin Khan. His message is the one of compromise and accommodation. Pretty pragmatic stuff, if you ask me. Perhaps that is best suited at this time for Muslims of India. But I dislike his criticism of Allama Iqbal, Quaid-i-Azam, and (by inference) Pakistan. I can not understand why his writings have found space in this forum and how come they are relevant? In respect to whatever this article has said about the personalities who had a decisive influence in Pakistan’s creation, I would like to jot down my thoughts. Had Pakistan not been created, we would be economic slaves to Hindu banias. Lahore had Muslim majority, and it is said that the whole of Anarkali Bazaar had only two shops run by Muslims. Muslims of Pakistan were freed of their economic shackles when the opportunities presented themselves.

    The degree of animosity between Pakistan and India has much to do with deliberate actions of British administration in its dying days and the parochial attitude of Indian leadership. The negative aspects of Pakistan – India relations are products of India’s expansionist aims and hegemonic policies. India’s leadership never accepted Pakistan as a reality and have always tried to undermine its existence, right from 1947 to this day. Mr. Vajpayee is on record as having said that he had made a close study of Spain, where Muslims ruled for 800 years and today Islam is not to be found except in architectural relics.

    Wahiddudin Khan’s negative thoughts about Allama Iqbal are misplaced. Remember that Allama sahib was brought up in Punjab and his views had much to do with being brought up in an environment where Muslims felt oppressed despite being in majority. Lahore has been famous as the place where Muslims and Hindus faced off each other under the British administration. Remember the case of Ghazi Alamdin Shaheed, where Allama Iqbal was in fore-front of the defense team for him. Let us also remember the incident of Majid Shab-Bhar, which stands at a corner of Shah Almi chowk. Allama Iqbal was part of the team of volunteers who erected a mosque within a single night at a disputed site and dared Hindus to try to demolish it. Defiance in face of odds is the hall mark of Muslims. Allama Iqbal, though not as proactive as some would have liked, set example of activism for Muslims. That liliputians such as Waheeduddin dare criticize him is funny actually.

    The bit about Quaid-i-Azam not appreciating the future relations of Pakistan and India is also misplaced. As I have already pointed out, negative relations between Pakistan and India has much to do with the attitude of Hindu leadership. This same thinking would have manifested itself in a different guise, had India remained united. The crying of people like Waheeduddin Khan and his what-if questions are out of place. Instead of 150 million suffering Indian Muslims, there would have been 450 million suffering Indian Muslims had Pakistan not come into existence.

    The article does raise questions about the plight of Indian Muslims. Based on my interactions with Indian Muslims, I think that the following could be a good start.

    What could be done is that under the leadership of OIC, Muslim minorities in countries like India can be encouraged to develop their human resources by establishing institutions, greater access to higher education, and opportunities to work in reputable organizations abroad. Indians working in GCC countries are numerous and a substantial (if not major) percentage of them might as well be Muslims provided they have requisite qualifications. Indian Muslims by themselves are not barren of positive action. In Kerala their position is stronger and they have a greater input in the affairs of state. For example there is a college in Kerala established by Muslims which has a substantial percentage of seats reserved for non-muslims. Such proactive and confident approach is bound to help in the long run.

    The best thing that can happen for Indian Muslims is the resolution of Kashmir dispute. With normalization of relations, individual Pakistanis and GOP could be in a position to provide certain benefits to Indian Muslims. With greater interaction with fellow Muslims of Pakistan they could be spurred into developing their human resources by establishing institutions of higher education and access to Pakitani universities and colleges.

    If a significant part of India’s population is in the grip of despondency, and self doubt, then there would be serious ramifications for Indian society. It is high time that Indian establishment gives up its dream of Akhand Bharat and actually does something for establishment of peace in South Asia. The benefits for India and other countries of the region would doubtless be great. India and its neighbors could use reduction in defense expenditures and South Asia could be nuclear free. It is a dream I know, but I can not help but share it with others.
    Last edited by Zahid Iftikhar; 11-05-2006 at 12:00 PM.

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    But I dislike his criticism of Allama Iqbal, Quaid-i-Azam, and (by inference) Pakistan. I can not understand why his writings have found space in this forum and how come they are relevant?
    Sorry for being not careful enough to post such an article, which has been written from Indian perspective. Actually I read another article in a Bengali news paper (I’m a Bangladeshi but not a chauvinist nationalistic and sympathize more for oppress Muslims) regards Muslim's horrible condition and dire straightness at West Bengal that made me extremely angry and found this one in another site and skimmed it but forgot to read the whole article before posting it. Thus such problem occurred. I completely agree with your analysis and explanation regards BRITS's divide and rule policy. Bania Dhoti/Brahman has been trying to oppress Muslims by conniving and scheming with BRIT/Westerners. My grand father, father and uncle carried the memories of all of those. So, please accept my forgiveness for inadvertantly hurting your feelings. [/QUOTE]
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    No hard feelings brother. It is OK to hear criticism of makers of Pakistan just so we can remember their sacrifices and polish our arguments to defend their name.

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    Muslims in India: Good read

    Very interesting artcile about Indian Muslims. Good read.

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    I saw another article of this nature while back and I can't find that thread, MODS if you know about it please please feel free to merge it.

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    Indian politics



    RIDDEN by anti-Muslim feelings and spreading hate politics, India for quite some time has been trying to woo the US - led West not only by readjusting its nuclear ‘credentials’, but also by practising the western ‘cultural ethos’, probably on an experimental basis. Now that anything can be done to Muslims in India without fear and accountability, such nonsense is not condemned by the media and governments in India. Neither the UN or its various human rights agencies nor any tall leader in India could question injustice done to them, nor the Indian ‘patriotic’ media busy with themes like anti-Pakistanism, anti-Muslimism and Islamic terrorism would care to protect the rights of Muslims as enshrined in the Constitution by calling for administering justice to them.

    It has become a fashion to parade women in nude in western societies, but now the trend seems to have spread in India too, where the Muslim women are paraded nude in the streets. The ghastly ‘show’ took place in Uttar Pradesh (UP) in north India where Hindu woman chief minister belonging to a regional party, BSP, has assumed office recently.

    Relatives of a Hindu cabinet minister of UP on July 10 conducted the ghastly open parading of Muslim women in the streets of Lucknow, a well - known cultural centre of Muslims in India, but, shockingly, neither the government of UP nor the Central government was aware of this dirty parading for nearly a week.

    All India Radio that behaves like anti-Islamic radio and committed to the anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistan as well as terrorist propaganda with its so - called discussions and talks by the anti - Islamic persons freely available in India, has not reported the ‘cultural feast’ from India, because it would tarnish the image of the so - called secular and cultured India. The private media have also kept a total silence about the matter.

    Needless to state that the anti-Muslim and anti-Kashmir stand being pursed by the central government has emboldened the state governments to permit similar anti - Muslim actions without caring for any decency. The hidden role being played by the leading national parties like the Congress in promoting such nefarious activities for political gains by the Hindus against Muslims in the country requires no elucidation.The ‘ugly street’ incident in Lucknow once again reveals hypocrisy of the state machinery, as well as of the politicians. The Lucknow dirty game clearly shows that the security of the people of a country depends more on the morality of the people who run the government than on its law and the constitution.

    Politicians play with religious sentiments just to corner a few votes and make fortunes for their ‘services’ to the nation. As the media (both government - sponsored and other) play havoc in the lives of Muslims by cruelly projecting them as something undesirable elements in the ‘great’ Indian society, they are made to feel that they are under constant siege. It seems there can be no hope for any remedy to protect the common Muslim in India. Who will then safe-guard the genuine interests of these Muslims and help them live as honoured citizens of this ‘largest democracy’ of the world? The nexus between the politicians, bureaucrats and media magnets is too obvious to be described here. And would the trend continue in future too?

    Indians who live quite comfortably in India and abroad are still so proud of their country’s ‘cultural heritage’ that they are intolerant to hear anything bad about real India.

    They trumpet around saying that Indians are great and tolerant and the Muslims are terrorists and bad guys. Let them now say if what has in luck now reflects their concept of Indian culture.

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    Asalamo-a-laikum.

    Brave man. let's see how long it takes for him to lose his job, or Allah forbid, his life.

    The reality of 'secular' India. The only reason we had to create Pakistan.
    LOVE OR LEAVE PAKISTAN.
    Wa-salaam.
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    Re: The Tragedy of Indian Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by zia ul haq View Post
    Asalamo-a-laikum. Brave man. let's see how long it takes for him to lose his job, or Allah forbid, his life. The reality of 'secular' India. The only reason we had to create Pakistan.
    I'm glad that you know why Pakistan was created! Since there is validity, since there is a sense of identity, so should there be a sense of integrity whereby all our fellow Pakistani brothers and sisters who affiliate themselves with the crap that bollywood churns out, should steer well clear of it. Not for the sake of 'National Pride', rather for the sake of a sense of responsibility being a Pakistani. There should be honor in being Pakistani, a sense of morality in being Pakistani. One shouldn't degrade his/her identity by consuming the vile, sadistic filth that these godless people flaunt.

    John. F. Kennedy once said 'Ask not what your country can do for, rather ask what you can do for your country!'

    We as Pakistanis, need to ask ourselves what we have done for our country and our countrymen and women. Instead of wasting our precious time on decadence which india consistantly spews over our borders and into our living room televisions. We should be doing more to put out fund for countless poor Pakistani children have not a dime to afford a decent meal, let alone aquiring an education. The role models that our current generation is following is the decadence of bollywood, coupled with the death of our dignity and integrity as Pakistanis.

    I say these things not to provoke, rather to realize. It is a plague beyond all comprehension, where we stand at a juncture, that there is no one who is willing to stand together and fight for our people, our identity, our rights as citizens of a country which Allah blessed us with at our darkest our (don't you ever forget as a Pakistani, the horrors of 1947).

    We could not point a finger at these indians (as much as i hate them), till the time we start taking care of our own people. Taking care of our doesn't necessararly have to be by putting out money, rather can be by inspiring. You can inspire people by producing better quality Pakistani movies, music, cultural shows and especially by promoting Pakistan only media!!!!
    Last edited by Mujahid Achakzai; 08-02-2007 at 09:36 AM. Reason: bold typing a quotation
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6932888.stm


    Staying behind in India

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    By Geeta Pandey
    BBC News, Delhi
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    When Sir Cyril Radcliffe joined the dots on a map creating a Muslim Pakistan and a Hindu-majority India, 15 million refugees journeyed across the border to make a new life into the two newly-created nations.
    But millions of Muslims refused to let the line eject them from the only home they had ever known - India. We spoke to three generations of one such family.
    FAROOQI BEGUM, 85


    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...t_quote_rb.gif We lived in Delhi's Mori Gate area. I had three children - the oldest a five-year-old boy and the youngest a three-month-old girl. My husband owned an ice-cream factory.
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    In August 1947, the situation was very bad. All my neighbours had moved out to a refugee camp. But I didn't go.
    My husband used to say, "It's better to die with dignity then to live a life of insult and abuse in the camp."
    At night, the men would patrol the roads and the women would take shelter in a house which had a big iron gate. I would go up to my attic and stay there with my children.
    I had full faith in God. I said when our time comes, we will go. But if our time hasn't come, then no bullet will be able to harm us.
    For three days that August, the situation was so bad, so many bullets were fired, people were dying like popping popcorns.
    Many who tried to flee the city were butchered on the way, many lost their arms and legs. The marauders killed so many children - here is your Pakistan, they said.
    But then, if God looks after you, no-one can hurt you. So my family and I came to no harm.


    See a map of the area



    Even in our darkest days, we never thought about moving to Pakistan. My husband said, "We will go home to Rampur (in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh) because all our family is there, that's our home."
    On our last night in Delhi, I took a bottle of kerosene with me to the attic. I thought if someone attacked my honour, I would set myself and my children on fire. I thought it would be better to die than lose my honour.
    When a little peace returned after a month of carnage, the Nawab of Rampur arranged for us to get back home. It took us 24 hours to do the journey from Delhi to Rampur.
    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gifhttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...t_quote_rb.gif If I had tried to run away, God alone knows what could have happened to us http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...d_quote_rb.gif


    We left a guard at our home, but a Sikh family threw him out and occupied our place. When the guard informed us, my husband returned to Delhi.
    There are good people in every community. The occupants of the house were good people. They told my husband - everything is yours and you can take whatever is yours.
    But we decided to stay away. We never went back.
    My husband moved back to Delhi and revived his ice-cream factory.
    A couple of years later when things had settled down, he wanted us to return to Delhi too, but I turned it down. I said to him "Delhi has been plundered so many times, what's the guarantee it will not happen again?" So we stayed on in Rampur.
    If I had tried to run away, God alone knows what could have happened to us. So many people were killed in the trains when they tried to escape. Everyone had become crazy.
    I understand why it happened - people on both sides had lost their loved ones, and they had been scarred forever. If someone hurts my children, won't I go crazy too?</B> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...d_quote_rb.gif



    DR SHAHABUDDIN KHAN, 65


    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...t_quote_rb.gif I was five at the time of partition.

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    I remember our house was close to the railway station and we could hear people crying and sometimes shouting for help.
    The police officer in the area was very friendly to my uncle. One morning he came to our house and said, "Look we are trying our best to protect you, but we have heard there may be an attack on this lane. We think you should shift to a safe house."
    My uncle discussed it with my parents. My mother refused to move out. "Whether we live or die, it will be here, in our home," she said.
    She said we would not move to the refugee camp because there were rumours that women were being raped and molested there.
    Eventually, we moved to our ancestral place Rampur.
    I went to a new school there, I made new friends. Children adapt easily to new situations, so I did too.
    My parents decided that India was our home and there has never been any question about it.
    I've never dreamt about Pakistan. I have no close relatives there so there's no pull for me.
    We are much better and more safe here than we could be in Pakistan or anywhere else in the world.
    Today I'm proud of India's new achievements, the new generation which is doing so well.</B> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...d_quote_rb.gif



    SHIRAZ KHAN, 27

    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...t_quote_rb.gif The partition happened a long time ago and questions about it seem totally irrelevant to me.
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    It's only when I talk to my grandmother, and hear her story, I feel the turmoil inside me, I feel her pain and empathise with her. I realise how much pain and struggle she and our country has gone through.
    But then I think of the future - everyone is talking about India's progress, how fast it's growing and I feel proud of our country.
    My grandparents and my parents had an option before them to leave and go to Pakistan, but they chose to live here.
    And I think they chose wisely.
    Looking at the present situation of Muslims elsewhere, I see that their condition is far worse in other countries.
    If I have a problem here, people of different communities here will come to my aid. But people of my own community will not come and help me in any other country.
    Living in India, you share your life with people of different communities and that makes you a lot more liberal - we all may belong to different religions, but from the inside we're all similar.
    I have had a very secular upbringing and most of my friends are non-Muslims.
    The first time I became aware of my Muslim identity was in 1992, just after the Babri Mosque had been demolished in the northern Indian town of Ayodhya.
    I was in fifth standard then and one of my friends said, "You are a Mullah".
    I didn't know what a Mullah was, so I came home and asked my mother.
    She said, "Because you are a practising Muslim, it's just another name for you. You should not feel offended."
    To be honest, I did feel a little offended then, but when I grew up I realised that in some areas people from the two communities are polarised, and then it's up to two friends to resolve their issues and work it out.
    We resolved our issue and I'm still very close friends with this boy.
    In my school and college and now at work, I'm the only Muslim.
    Most people say they can't believe I'm a Muslim.
    I think it's partly the media which is responsible for this image of Muslims - they are always portraying the hardliners.
    During weekends, I go out for dinner or movies and hang out with my friends. I watched Harry Potter and Die Hard. I listen to Metallica, Green Day and Bryan Adams and my favourites.</B> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...d_quote_rb.gif





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    Fearful Muslims adopt Hindu IDs

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    CALCUTTA–On a busy street in Calcutta's business district, he runs a food stall called "Rajib's Paratha" and is known as Rajib Mallick.

    Using the popular Hindu name, no one suspects he is Rajab Ali Mollah, a Muslim who has adopted a fictitious identity to blend in with the neighbourhood's mostly Hindu office workers.

    Sohrab Hossain, a Muslim student who came to the city to complete his Masters degree in English and lives in a Hindu-dominated housing complex, is known as Sourav Das among the students he tutors. To keep up his Hindu appearance he has a small idol of Saraswati, the Hindu goddess of learning, on his desk.

    Every morning as she prepares to go to work as a fishmonger, Hasina Khatoon takes off her silver armband embossed with "Allah" in Arabic, puts vermillion powder on her forehead and red-white conch bangles on her wrist – symbols of a married Hindu woman – to maintain a Hindu appearance in a fish market where almost all of her customers are Hindus.

    Rajab Mollah, Sohrab Hossain and Hasina Khatoon say they have adopted new identities in a Hindu-majority society where as Muslims they would face discrimination.

    Analysts say many Muslims from all socio-economic backgrounds are quietly hiding their religious affiliation.

    "Muslims in almost all spheres of life face a communal discrimination by powerful Hindus and they are denied many of their basic rights and freedom in an unjustified way," said Anjan Basu, a social analyst and executive editor of Pratidin, a Bengali daily in Calcutta.

    Six decades after Partition, "many (Hindus) believe that Pakistan was created for Muslims and now they do not have right to live in India, which is meant for Hindus."

    The Partition of India 60 years ago was a highly controversial arrangement, and remains a cause of much tension on the subcontinent today.

    Basu, who is a Hindu, also said discrimination has been "institutionalized," with many Muslims being denied employment in government and private-sector offices where 90 to 95 per cent jobs are held by Hindus.

    Gautam Ray, a senior journalist with Calcutta's largest Bengali daily Anandabazar Patrika, said that since the bulk of the dalits (low-caste Hindus or so-called Untouchables) converted to Islam when the religion spread in India, many upper-caste Hindus look down on Muslims as they had for generations looked down on dalits.

    "The root of this communal discrimination is deeply entrenched in the society and most of these communal Hindus are not expected to change their feeling for Muslims any time soon," said Ray, who is also an upper-caste Hindu. "Muslims are often denied housing in Hindu-dominated modern residential complexes," he added.

    "This communal discrimination against Muslims will not end unless Hindus themselves change their attitude. But we do not see hope of any such positive social change anytime soon."

    Muslims who adopted fake Hindu identities believe they did nothing wrong by hiding their original identities.

    "Ten years ago, when my house and land in the village was eaten up by a river and I came to Calcutta in search of a job, almost all street shops and restaurants in the city refused to employ me because I was a Muslim," Mollah said.

    "Some said their Hindu customers could refuse to eat at their restaurants if a Muslim worked there," he said.

    "But I met a Muslim man who worked under a Hindu identity to supply water to restaurants. I followed his advice, picked up a Hindu identity and soon an upper-class Hindu employed me to run a food stall."

    Nearly all of Mollah's customers are Hindus and he fears his business would suffer disastrously if his customers found out he is a Muslim.

    "I don't think I have done anything wrong because I know how they hate Muslims simply because of their religion," he added.

    A federal commission recently found that Muslims "live in socio-economic conditions worse than many so-called backward tribal people," according to commission chief Rajendra Sachar, a former judge.

    In the state of West Bengal, where the Muslim community makes up 27 per cent of the population, employment of Muslims in the government sector was below 3 per cent, the Sachar Commission reported.

    Some Muslim leaders see education as the key to a better future.

    "If the younger generation can educate themselves, it will be difficult for even the most communal Hindus to discriminate against a new Muslim force," said Nazrul Islam, a senior public servant and noted Calcutta writer.

    "Maybe discrimination will not be wiped out completely, but an educated and powerful community of Muslims will be able to fight off the injustice, at least to a good extent."

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    Somebody else used to sit on this throne once upon a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zia ul haq View Post
    Asalamo-a-laikum.

    Somebody else used to sit on this throne once upon a time.
    Tipu Sultan ?
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    Nadan ye samjhta hai kay Islam hai azaad

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    Tipu Sultan ?
    Tipu Sultan and his great father, Hyder Ali. Too bad that the throne is now occupied by "Jabba the Hut".
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    Tipu Sultan and his great father, Hyder Ali. Too bad that the throne is now occupied by "Jabba the Hut".
    Thats unfair... on Jabba the Hut..

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    I remember seeing a miniature painting of Tipu Sultan. His throne had either arms as tigers or the legs were carved as tigers. Too bad can not see the whole throne. Tipu Sulatan was a tiger, what we see today is a fat and docile "katta" - that is punjabi for a water buffalo calf.

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    Elections pass Gujarat Muslims by
    As the Indian state of Gujarat gets ready to vote in the second and final phase of elections on Sunday, the BBC's Geeta Pandey talks to Muslims displaced by religious riots in 2002 in which more than 1,000 people, most of them Muslims, were killed.


    Overlooked by a hillock of garbage near Ahmedabad city's biggest rubbish dump, a group of children play in the early afternoon sun.

    Small heaps of garbage burn a few metres away and the air smells acrid.

    This is Citizen Nagar - home to hundreds of Muslim families, displaced by the 2002 religious riots in Gujarat.

    Five years on from the carnage in which hundreds of Muslims were killed, these people live forgotten by the powers that be.

    At every election rally, the state's Hindu nationalist chief minister Narendra Modi talks about how he has helped make Gujarat the most developed state in India by bringing tap water and round-the-clock power to every home.

    He prides himself on Gujarat's world-class roads and the billions of dollars of investment he has won for the state.

    'Uninhabitable'

    But this development is yet to reach Citizen Nagar. Once you turn off the main road, you are on a dusty uneven untarred road.

    The water here is so hard that it corrodes their pots. And the proximity to the garbage dump brings many illnesses.

    And the residents' patience is wearing thin. I'm surrounded by a very vocal group of women as soon as I arrive and the list of complaints is long.


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    "The Citizen Nagar does not have the basic amenities. We have received nothing from the government. We live right next to the garbage pit. No one from the government has visited us in the last five years," says Reshma Bano.

    She says the biggest worry they have is about their children's future. "There's no school here, no health centre, no work, nothing," she says.

    In the monsoons, the residents say, the place is uninhabitable. The rain water floods everything, filth swirls around.

    Fatima Begum, who lost eight members of her family during the riots, says, "We had a nice house but now we are forced to live near this garbage dump."

    The residents of Citizen Nagar are now demanding that they are moved away to another location.

    "This place stinks. They often come and throw animal carcasses here. And recently they threw two human bodies here. We are living like animals," says Reshma Bano.

    Low priority

    Of the state's 50 million population, Muslims make up about nine per cent. And because they are scattered around, they do not vote as a composite unit in the elections.

    Which means their welfare is not a priority with any political party.

    In the narrow lanes and bylanes of the Muslim-dominated Naroda Patiya area of Ahmedabad, hundreds of Muslims were butchered alive by marauding mobs five years ago.

    The memories still haunt those who survived the massacre. Most here lost several members of their families and are still living with grief.

    Shakila Bano begins to weep as she recounts the horror of the riots.

    "I lost eight members of my family - my mother, two brothers, sister-in-law and four small children. They hacked my brother into pieces, my mother and the children were all burnt alive."

    Shakila Bano says her mother offered all her life's savings - 40,000 rupees - to the attackers to spare her family.

    "They took the money and promised to spare my family. But, they still burnt them all. We begged and pleaded with the police to help us - they said they couldn't do anything for us."

    Since the riots, Shakila Bano says festivals have lost any meaning for her family.

    "Even Eid doesn't bring a cheer to us anymore. I avoid going to the lane where my mother lived, the memories of my family and happier times come flooding back to me. I don't wish to live any more, I wish for Allah to give me death," she says, sobbing.

    Discrimination

    Many of the residents have returned to Naroda Patiya since the riots to pick up the pieces and start afresh.

    In a matter of days, most lost everything they ever owned, and their entire life's savings.

    Almost all community members I spoke to said they had to deal with daily discrimination and humiliation.

    "If you're a Muslim, no bank will give you a loan," said Rafiq Lala, an Ahmedabad-based driver.


    "However well educated and qualified we may be, we are never considered for any government jobs," says Sardar Ahmad.

    He lost all his savings during the riots. "Today, we've been turned into beggars. Now I work in a factory, I earn 50 rupees a day."

    For many Muslims, the current assembly elections have no meaning.

    And they have no faith in any political party. "All we want is to be able to live in peace. Do you think any political party will give us that?" Mr Ahmad asks.

    Angry

    Muslims in Gujarat say they feel let down by the main opposition party in Gujarat, the Congress, which has not taken a strong stand on the minorities' issue in the state.

    But most of the anger here is directed at one man - state's Hindu nationalist chief minister Narendra Modi.

    Mr Modi was the chief minister during the 2002 riots and has been heavily criticised for not stopping the violence against Muslims.

    Mr Modi is once against contesting the elections.

    Community members say obviously they will not be voting for his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

    "Modi's supporters say he's done great work - yes, he has, he's made women like us widows, he's made our children orphans, that's the great work he's done," says Fatima Begum, a resident of Citizen Nagar.


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    Asalamo-a-laikum.

    It's funny how they have been surreptitiously revising this figure down for years. Before long it will never have happened.

    Anyway, this means nothing. What about all the others who will never face justice?
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    Thirteen convicted for India riot
    By Sanjoy Majumder
    BBC News, Delhi



    A special court in India has convicted 13 people in connection with the mass murder and gang-rape of Muslims during the 2002 riots in Gujarat state.
    A policeman is among those who have been found guilty.

    The case was moved out of Gujarat and handed over to federal police by the supreme court which said the state had done little to bring them to justice.

    More than 1,000 people, mostly Muslims, died in the riots, although independent groups say the toll was nearly 2,000.

    Infamous

    The convictions were delivered by a special court in the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay) where the trial was shifted following the supreme court order in 2004.

    This was one of the most infamous cases in the Gujarat riots - a Hindu mob attacked a group of Muslims.

    Fourteen Muslims were killed and three women were gang-raped.

    One of them was Bilkis Bano, who was pregnant at the time and only managed to survive because the attackers thought she was dead.

    She was the key witness during the trial and it was the evidence she provided that led to Friday's convictions.

    Among those convicted is a policeman who was charged with protecting the guilty.

    Sentences will be handed out on Monday.

    The Gujarat government, which is run by the Hindu nationalist BJP, was heavily criticised for its poor handling of the riot cases.


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    Are muslims in India that weak? Surely 120 million people could come together?!

    I once raised similar issues with a indian muslim welfare group based in Batlely, UK. He said the best they do is lobby their local MP and nothing more. He said that in India they were fractured and divided!

    This said, they (indian muslims, with some help from human rights groups) did manage to prevent the Gujarat home minister (aka the person who was responsbile for the massacre in 2002 Narendra Modi) from getting a UK visa! Not much solace to the victims though!

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    Asalamo-a-laikum.

    Usually when ever Muslims get in the majority in a certain constituency they redraw its boundaries to split them up. It is a simple case of 'Gerrymandering'.

    Also, if the BJP/VHP/RSS, even Congress or the Communists see that Muslims are getting more powerful, they stamp down on them hard, a la Gujerat.
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    Asalamo-a-laikum.

    Speaking of Gujerat, here is the proof, a couple of show trials for low level nobodies, and the Muslims kept as a permanent underclass.

    Mission accomplished.

    Again, see how they have revised the figure down. In the aftermath of the riots it was over a couple of thousand, then it went to 1,500, now it is a 1,000.
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    Life sentences over Gujarat riots
    A special court in India has given life sentences to 11 people in connection with the murder and gang-rape of Muslims during the 2002 Gujarat riots.
    The case was moved out of Gujarat and handed over to federal police by the Supreme Court which said the state had done little to bring justice.

    It was called the "Bilkis Bano case" after a key witness who had been raped and had a number of relatives killed.

    More than 1,000 people, most of them Muslims, died in the riots.

    A defence lawyer has said those convicted will appeal against the verdict.

    Hindu mob

    A policeman was among those convicted.

    He was charged with protecting the guilty and sentenced to three years. But he has already spent four in jail and will be released soon.


    The convictions had been announced last Friday by the special court in the Indian city of Mumbai (Bombay) - where the trial was shifted following the Supreme Court order in 2004.

    Bilkis Bano was the key witness during the trial and it was the evidence she provided that led to the convictions.

    Ms Bano, who was pregnant at the time, was raped and her three-year-old daughter and several other family members were killed when a Hindu mob attacked a group of Muslims.

    She witnessed the massacre of 14 Muslims and the gang-rape of three women. She survived because the attackers thought she was dead.

    A few hours before sentencing, Ms Bano addressed a press conference in Delhi.

    ''Justice may have been done but my family and I are still living in fear,'' she said.

    The Gujarat government, which is run by the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, was heavily criticised for its poor handling of the riot cases.

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    Asalamo-a-laikum.

    May Allah (SWT) aid her in her struggle.
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    Why Bilkis Bano 'kept on fighting'
    A Muslim woman from the Indian state of Gujarat who was gang-raped six years ago has told the BBC about her experience following the conviction of 11 people involved in the crime.
    Bilkis Bano, who was six months pregnant at the time, was raped and many of her family - including her three year-old daughter - were killed in the attack by a Hindu mob.

    She only survived as her attackers thought they had left her for dead.

    Speaking to the BBC World Service's Outlook programme, she said, "God saved me."

    Recalling the attack, she said, "they had torn off my clothes... I felt very thirsty and hungry.

    "I was petrified that they would spot me and kill me.

    "I hid behind a big stone for two days and then came out thinking that if God willed it, I would be safe.

    "I then got help from nearby villagers."

    Courage to fight

    Ms Bano was a key witness during the trial, and it was her evidence that led to the convictions.

    What made her case unusual was that she refused to back down after repeated intimidation; it is common in such cases for witnesses to change their evidence.

    Ms Bano said that had the support of her husband who encouraged her to see the case through.


    "My husband stood by me and I got the courage to fight out against this injustice," she said.
    "I resolved that I must file a case and keep fighting.

    My family and people from my community gave me strength."

    Gujarat suffered some of the worst post-partition violence in 2002, where more than 1,000 people, mainly Muslims, were killed during riots.

    The case was moved out of Gujarat, to Mumbai (Bombay), for fear that Ms Bano would not get a fair trial.

    "I got lots of threats; loads of people intimidated me," she said.

    "But I told to myself that I wouldn't get scared by these threats. I knew I had to fight for justice."

    In addition to the 11 attackers who were given life sentences, a policeman received a three-year sentence for falsifying evidence.

    But Ms Bano said she is still not completely satisfied.

    "Seven people were released because of a lack of evidence," she said. "I find this unacceptable.

    "These seven include policemen and doctors who tried to weaken my case.

    I want them to get convicted. I will continue to fight."

    She added that although she won, she knows her life will never return to how she knew it.

    "I remember all that happened to me and my family in that village," she said.

    "I can't and don't want to go back to that place."

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    A muslim revolution needs to be ignited in India, else they will be end up taking the untouchable job of India. Why are they in a lull. They need to wake up.
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    A muslim revolution needs to be ignited in India, else they will be end up taking the untouchable job of India. Why are they in a lull. They need to wake up.
    Who are they? They are us; our brothers and sisters!

    As far a waking up is concerned, let us recall a recent incident:

    A video of a Taliban teenager was recently released in which he was shown cutting the throat of a 'kafir' Pakistani soldier! Strangely, both of them were reciting 'Kalima!' The poor soldier was reciting it because he was getting ready to meet his maker and the teenager was reciting it because to him it was no different than the ritual sacrifice of a goat!

    Yes, we all need to wake up.

    I hope Musharraf will either leave them alone or develop a consensus among us and then set such an example that this 'fitna' never ever dares to raise its head again in Pakistan. Repeat, consensus is a must otherwise he will get isolated.
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    You have to admire the guy in some respects...
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    Mohammed Saidullah, a resident of Motihari in the Indian state of Bihar, has received many awards and trophies in the last few years for his innovation.

    In 1975, when his Jatwa-Janerwa village was swamped under flood waters - an annual monsoon menace - he pleaded with a local boatman to take him to safety.

    When the boatman refused to give him space unless he paid for it, the young Saidullah looked for other ways to tackle the floodwater.

    Necessity met creativity and in just three days, he made an amphibious bicycle which could easily negotiate the floodwaters.

    He modified the conventional bicycle by adding four rectangular air floats to support it while it moved on water. Two fan blades were attached to the spokes of the rear wheel which enabled it to run on both water and land.

    The blades were arranged in such a fashion that the cycle could be driven in reverse direction too.

    Shining moment

    Later, Mr Saidullah demonstrated the prowess of his vehicle before a stunned crowd, which included the then state governor, AR Kidwai, when he crossed the river Ganges in Patna city.

    His big shining moment came in January 2005 when the then Indian President, APJ Abdul Kalam, presented him with the National Innovation Foundation's (NIF) lifetime achievement award.

    In the same year, he was selected as one of the 12 finalists for the prestigious Wall Street Journal Asian Innovation Awards.


    He was also profiled for the Discovery Channel's "Beyond Tomorrow" programme.

    In fact, he has won so many awards that he has lost count of them all.

    An impressed NIF took away his bicycle and offered to get it patented.

    But three years later, Mr Saidullah has neither got the patent nor the bicycle.

    Today, he lives in penury.

    Everyday, he pedals about 30 kms on his bicycle to sell honey so that he can feed his family of 16.

    But the work brings him a paltry 1,500 rupees ($37) a month.

    Grinding poverty

    Unable to make the ends meet, he has now put up his roadside half-thatched, half-concrete house and the small plot of land - in Mathia Dih locality of Motihari in East Champaran district - on sale.

    His disillusionment is such that Mr Saidullah wants to return all his awards and trophies.

    "If you want to destroy someone, give him an award," he says.

    After the bicycle, Mr Saidullah also invented an amphibious cycle-rickshaw which he demonstrated before the BBC team in a nearby pond.

    "On this, I can take my grandchildren for a joy ride in the water," Mr Saidullah told the BBC.


    "But I feel hurt by what the NIF has done to me. They used us for their promotion," he says.

    "May I know how many innovators like me have been benefited and how many of us have been destroyed by them?" asks Mr Saidullah, with pain creasing his face.


    NIF executive chairman, Anil Gupta, is sympathetic to Mr Saidullah's plight: "We tried a lot, are still trying and will keep trying to explore things being done for Mr Saidullah's amphibious bicycle. But yes his frustration is completely understandable.

    "Despite our best efforts, for some reasons we failed to generate any entrepreneurship for his bicycle. We've given him the innovation fellowship of a fixed amount and we are ready to support him in future too," Mr Gupta said.

    There is still a chance that things may look up for him.

    A senior official in Bihar state's science and technology department, Ajay Kumar, told the BBC he would do all he could to help Mohammed Saidullah.

    "Though there is no structured schemes for commercialisation of such innovations in my department but we would certainly help him in getting his product patented after talking with the NIF," Mr Kumar said.

    According to Mohammed Saidullah's son, Mohammed Shakilurrahman, the family was not always poor. Mr Saidullah inherited acres of land, orchards, elephants and a big house from his father.

    But, the rural scientist sold all his property to pursue his innovations, his son says.

    New things

    He blames his father's "sheer madness" for the family's poverty.

    He too sells honey in the state capital.

    However, Mr Saidullah's bitter past experience has not stopped him from moving on to new things.

    After the amphibious bicycle, he developed a key-operated table fan which can run non-stop for two hours, a mini-water pump that needs no fuel and a mini-tractor which can run for two hours on just five litres of diesel.


    Now, he claims he's making a helicopter which would cost the equivalent of $62,500 and a car that would be powered by air energy.

    His dark, dingy workshop is crammed with a hand-made lathe machines and countless corroded nut-bolts littered on long rusty iron racks.

    But it's his favourite place. "I love to be here all the time," he says.

    Where would he go once his house and land is sold off?

    "I'll make a three-storey moving car with folding cots, pack my family in and park it on an open government land by the roadside anywhere," he says.


    The maverick innovator says he draws inspiration for his innovations from his everyday experiences. He has named all his creations after his loving wife, Noor Jahan.

    "Noor means light and Inshallah a day would come when there would be light in our life too," says Saidullah.

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    Asalamo-a-laikum.

    Sadly they're hit from all sides. You can get a good idea of how hard the Islamic elite were thrashed by the British, and the Hindus and Sikhs were waiting in the wings t take over. None of these guys are shop owners, but they're doing the work.
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    By Geeta Pandey
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    In the narrow back alleys of Lucknow city's Vikas Nagar area, a group of women sit on a rooftop soaking in the winter sun.

    It's a weekday February afternoon, the men folk have gone to work and small children are asleep in this north Indian city.

    The older ones have just returned from school, they've been fed lunch and are now running around playing.

    And the women, finally free of domestic chores, are busy doing chikankari - a form of intricate embroidery work which this city is famous for.

    "I learnt the craft from my mother-in-law. She was an expert at it," says Nasreen Jehan, while working furiously on a white sari with a purple border.

    It will take her 15 to 20 days to complete the job, and she will be paid 400 rupees ($10) for her work.

    Little pay


    Nasreen is a member of the city-based NGO, Lucknow Mahila Sewa Trust, which is working with more than 2,500 women embroidery workers like her.

    Manufacturers employ close to 200,000 women from in and around the city - most of them illiterate Muslims.


    The pay is not much - those registered with Sewa get a minimum of 35 rupees a day (just a little below a dollar).

    In many factories around Lucknow, the embroidery-makers are paid as little as 20 rupees (half a dollar) or sometimes even less for a day's work.

    But even that paltry sum goes a long way in the slums of Lucknow where most families live in abject poverty.

    Farida Jalees, secretary of Lucknow Mahila Sewa Trust, says now the embroidery workers have a reason to be worried.

    'Biggest challenge'

    Hundreds of thousands of metres of cloth, often with very similar embroidery, is now being made in China and this "Chinese-chikan" has made it to the shop shelves in Lucknow in the past two years.

    "In China, the embroidery is done by machine, it looks smooth, it has a better finish. And they can make it quickly, in huge volumes and meet the market demand. This is our biggest challenge," Ms Jalees says.


    "Our women here work with hands. So their work doesn't have that kind of finish. And it takes a lot longer to make each piece which means our prices go up. Now if we continue to get Chinese-chikan, then we will be pushed out of the market."

    Chikankari is widely believed to have originated in Persia many centuries ago, and it was brought to Lucknow in the 17th century by Noor Jahan, Mughal emperor Jehangir's queen.

    For the last 200 years now, chikankari has thrived in the city, so much so that today Lucknow is often called the city with the first claim to the craft.

    The embroidery has caught the fancy of fashion designers in Bollywood and has made an impact on international couture too.

    'Pretty'

    But with the invasion of the cheap machine-made Chinese variety, Lucknow's reputation as the number one in the craft is facing a stiff challenge.

    At Narang's store in upmarket Sahara Ganj shopping mall, the Chinese-chikan is giving serious competition to the original hand-embroidered variety.

    Shop-owner Gurbir Singh shows me some of the samples. It is difficult for an untrained eye to make out the difference.


    A shopper takes keen interest in an orange-green shirt. "It's very pretty. I really like it and would love to buy it for my daughter. But this size is too big. Shame they don't have her size," she says.

    It's obvious the made-in-China tag doesn't seem to bother the customer.

    In the last few years, Chinese products have invaded Indian markets big time. Be it electronics or toys or household items or cheap fabric, the made-in-China label is everywhere.

    Chinese products score because they are cheap, and widely available.

    Time will tell what impact Chinese chikan will have on the local industry.

    Patent

    Farida Jalees says it should be documented as soon as possible. She is also campaigning for the patenting of the embroidery form to ensure India doesn't lose out the craft to China.

    "We are pushing the Indian government to file for a patent on chikan embroidery. Just as we are fighting for patenting the basmati rice, we must fight for chikan too. It belongs to India, it belongs to Lucknow.


    "It's a matter of bread and butter for the hundreds of thousands of women who are dependent on the craft," she says.

    But some say in the present globalised world, competition cannot be wished away and the industry should modernise to meet the challenge head on.

    Dinesh Kumar is the owner of Nazrana Chikan Industries - one of the largest chikan garment manufacturers and exporters in Lucknow.

    "We have to live with the fact that you cannot stop China from exporting its goods to India. But what I want to know is why can't we change the way we work? Why can't we produce chikan garments which are able to compete with the Chinese fabric in finish and pricing?"

    At 1100, his factory is buzzing with activity. The tailors are cutting cloth, sewing machines are whirring full speed, the readymade garments are being counted and labelled and a designer is dressing a mannequin.

    The company makes traditional designs for the Indian market, and also high-end clothes which are exported to Australia, Spain, Italy and many other countries.

    Mr Kumar says the industry need not fear the Chinese invasion.

    "Our craft is very specialised. China can copy some of our designs, they can do some of our stitches, but chikankari has so much variety, they can not copy all our designs. Lucknow's chikan is safe," he says.

    Perhaps that's why Nasreen is upbeat about her future.

    "There is so much demand. And nowadays so many new fancy designs have been introduced in the market. I think the market will grow further and with that the demand for our work is bound to grow," she says.


    Story from BBC NEWS:
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    Published: 2008/03/03 11:05:20 GMT

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