Old thread is here: http://www.pakdef.info/forum/showthread.php?t=6602
Old thread is here: http://www.pakdef.info/forum/showthread.php?t=6602
There is a special Providence in the fall of a sparrow, if it be now, "tis not to come, if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be now, yet it will come, the readiness is all. [Hamlet]
Gwadar port will not be used for military purpose: CNS
Admiral Karimullah says PN to maintain minimum deterrence to deter aggression
LONDON: Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Shahid Karimullah has said the Gwadar port will not be used for strategic or military purpose because it is designed to promote strategic economic interests of the country.
In an interview with a TV channel late on Tuesday, he said China could also utilise Gwadar port for its commercial purposes. "Once it is completed it would help promote trade to and from Central Asian Republics," he added.
The CNS said that the Pakistan Navy had the Jinnah Naval Port, which was 100 miles east of Gwadar, hence the perception in the West that Gwadar could be used for military purposes was incorrect.
Admiral Shahid Karimullah said the government has allocated enough funds for the Navy to maintain minimum deterrence and for defending the country in case of any aggression. He said that Pakistan was neither trying to match Indian Navy unity by unit nor had it any aggressive intentions.
"We have to maintain a minimum conventional deterrence" and the government has earmarked enough funds for the purpose for the next 15 years, he said, adding that the purchase of frigates from China was also a part of the minimum deterrence. In this regard, he went on, "the navy is going for the construction of submarine".
Responding to a question, he said that the Pakistan Navy was participating in a modest way in "Operation Enduring Freedom" in the Persian Gulf being conducted by the coalition forces following government’s permission to participate in it. It is meant to ensure that "the terrorists do not escape to Balochistan" or to any other country and to check narcotics and smuggling.
"Pakistan Navy’s participation in this operation, he said, had helped it "tremendously" as it created a lot of goodwill and indicates its resolve to seriously support anti-terrorist operation."
Answering a question he said some women officers were inducted for short-jobs in the Pakistan Navy but it would be looking at recruiting women cadets for its ships in future.
The naval chief is on a six-day official visit to Britain at the invitation of his British counterpart, Admiral Sir Alan West. Admiral Shahid visited Portsmouth seaport on Tuesday and inspected guard of honour there. During his stay at Portsmouth he met Cdre Adrian Nance and Cdre Gerard Thwaites. He also visited HMS Victory and on arrival, was welcomed by Admiral Sir Alan and Lady West. HMS Victory is a ship which had participated in the Battle of Traffalgar.
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/index.html
There is a special Providence in the fall of a sparrow, if it be now, "tis not to come, if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be now, yet it will come, the readiness is all. [Hamlet]
AFX News Limited
UK and Pakistan sign arms deal
05.18.2005, 09:40 AM
ISLAMABAD (AFX) - Pakistan and the UK have signed an arms deal to allow Islamabad to purchase British military hardware, a defence ministry statement said here.
Britain's visiting Under Secretary of State for Defence, Kevin Tebbitt, signed the document with his Pakistani counterpart, Lieutenant General Ali Muhammad Jan, the statement said.
'The Memorandum of Understanding would help open new avenues in defence cooperation between Pakistan and the UK. It would facilitate procurement of defence equipments and transfer of technology,' it said.
The two sides also agreed to hold 'joint exercises, exchange observers and to jointly fight the war on terror.'
transfer of technology
Aziz
If you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Does any one know which version of Harpoon Pakistan will be getting i.e slam, slam-er, or slam-er ATA?
SLAM-DUNK versionOriginally Posted by pshamim
H Khan
Pakistanis (irrespective of their standing in society) exult gossip, paranoia, superstition, and conspiracy theories more than the science of history- H Khan
No NO nO Its the GRAND SLAM version we're gettin
But seriously I doubt if were getting the Er etc versions.
Two Pakistani navy ships to participate in Fleet Week at NY
WASHINGTON, May 20 (APP) - Two Pakistani ships, Frigate PNS Tippu Sultan and Oil Tanker PNS Mowin, will participate in the Fleet Week to be held in New York from May 25 to May 31, an official announcement said on Friday. (Posted @ 10:00 PST)
I think that its Harpoon Block II which is similar to SLAM and i think that it the shares the data link of SLAM and also has a new GPS based navigation and targeting systems which allow it to also attack ground targets with better percision. And it just came out recently.
Pak Navy personnel rescue crew members of Korean vessel
KARACHI, May 23 (APP)- Pakistan Navy personnel rescued 12 crew members of a Korean merchant ship, "MV Horizon-9", that caught fire about 15 miles south west of Karachi in the Arabian sea. A press release of the ISPR (Navy) on Monday said that the propulsion system and electric power of the ship had completely broken down and the vessel became "Not under command" in the open sea with its crew members trapped and waiting for assistance. (Posted @ 16:45 pST)
PN warships take part in US Fleet Week
By Our Correspondent
NEW YORK, May 26: Two ships of the Pakistan Navy participated in the US Fleet week in New York on Wednesday. When the Pakistani ships, Tippu Sultan and Moawin , sailed into the New York Harbour as part of a huge flotilla of ships, they were received by US Rear Admiral Phil McCarthy and Pakistan Navy’s Vice Admiral Farooq Rashid, who had flown here from Islamabad ahead of the battleships’ arrival to join his seafaring men.
The Pakistani battleships are participating in the Fleet Week, an annual event during which the US Navy displays its prowess. They will also take part in the US Memorial Day celebrations.
“Basically, it is an occasion to enable the American people to see their navy in action,” Rear Admiral McCarthy, commander of the US flotilla taking part in the Fleet Week celebrations, told reporters aboard Tippu Sultan . He said he had been pleased to have Pakistan Navy join this event.
Admiral McCarthy said that naval ships from France and Canada would also join the celebrations later in the week.
http://www.dawn.com/2005/05/27/top10.htm
As it has already been reported that Pakistan Navy has been conducting operations with the American and French Navy quoting Pakistani sources. The following article is from Warship magazine, containing information from the US Navy. I did not know that PNS Babar is also participating beside PNS Tariq.
The Pakistan Navy destroyer PNS Babur in the Gulf Photo: Journalist 2nd Class Elton Shaw/ US NavyPakistan Steps up to plate
As part of a Pakistan's closer involvement in the War on Terrorism, the PNS Babur has been conducting operations with the American destroyer USS The Sullivans and French frigate FS Surcouf in the Gulf of Oman.
The Babur took part in Maritime Interdiction Operations (MIOPS) intended to disrupt the passage of terrorists and their materials by sea. Pakistan's participation came within the framework of a Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan (CMCP) executed by Commander Task Force 150.
"Coalition forces, which include major navies of the world, are working to prevent terrorist attacks against vital maritime infrastructures in the region," explained Captain Asif Khaliq TI, Commanding Officer of the Babur. "Pakistan, being an important regional country, considers itself responsible for contributing toward peace, safety and stability in the region; which in turn will ensure uninterrupted economic activities in the region, which is mainly dependent upon the maritime sector."
Commander Stephen Lorentzen, US 5th Fleet surface operations officer observed:"We could not do what we need to do here in support of the global war on terror without the help of Coalition forces." TF 150 Commanding Officer Commodore Tom Cunningham RN said that he felt the Pakistani Navy, as well as other regional fleets, obviously had a lot of insider knowledge.
"They speak the languages here and they understand the environment," said Commodore Cunningham. "So as well as operating a ship, when we want advice on the region we can turn to the Pakistani vessel and they can advise us on regional customs and movements of traffic. They basically give us our core expertise. Also, because we are operating in support of international law, they have legal powers that most of us do not have in the region. Part of our task over here, is, of course, the enforcement of international law and international resolutions," added Cdre Cunningham. "Therefore, international maintenance adds credibility to our mission. It also offers the opportunity for us to benefit from different nations' specialists, connections in the region, and their knowledge on the region."
With the help of its Special Service Group (SSG), Pakistani Navy ships have been committed to carrying out maritime interception operations in the region since April.
"Our job is to board vessels and ensure all passengers are listed in the crew manifest," said Lieutenant Jawad Haider Khawaja, Babur's boarding officer. "We assure vessels we are there to protect and help them, but they must be in compliance with the laws of the seas. Ninety-nine percent of the time we board a vessel we have no problems. But every once in a while we catch a bad guy. And that's why we are there."
Another important aspect of the CMCP is to check and interrupt the drugs, arms and human trafficking, which is an equal menace in the region. "Pakistani participation in the CMCP is not aimed against any particular country or countries," said Captain Khaliq. "It is rather aimed against those who are common enemies of peace and safety to ourselves and brethren in the region."
• Story based on material provided by the US Navy
This was just posted on Dawn:
Pakistani, French ships collide off Staten Island NEW YORK, May 29 (APP/AP) _ Two foreign naval ships arriving in the city for Fleet Week collided off Staten Island on Saturday, causing minor damage to both vessels, event organizers said. No injuries were reported The Jean Bart, a French ship, collided with the Moawin, a Pakistani vessel, off Stapleton Pier. The French frigate struck the port side of the Pakistani support ship, which was already moored. There was visible damage across 30 feet (9.14 meters) of the French vessel's hull, organizers said. The Pakistani ship was only superficially damaged. (Posted @ 11:30 PST)
Mustafa
Boy, that support ship has taken a beating recently!!!
Gaf
Azher Shamim promoted to rear admiral
By Our Reporter
ISLAMABAD, May 28: Commodore Azher Shamim Anwar has been promoted to rear admiral with immediate effect, a notification issued by the defence ministry said. According to Naval Headquarters’ press release, Rear Admiral Shamim was commissioned in Pakistan Navy in the Operations Branch on June 1, 1974 with seniority from August 17, 1973. He has specialized in aviation and held various command appointments including P-3C Squadron whilst in the US, 27 Maritime Squadron at PNS Mehran, 18th Destroyer Squadron and Auxiliary and Mine Warfare Squadron.
He has commanded PNS Zulfiqar, a frigate, and PNS Mujahid, a minesweeper. His staff appointments included assistant chief of naval staff (plans) at NHQ, chief staff officer to commander Karachi and officer-in charge Maritime Headquarters at PNS Haider.
He is a graduate of Naval Staff College USA and has also done Armed Forces War Course from National Defence College. He was awarded TI (M) in 1984 in recognition of his services as the senior pilot and flying instructor in 29 ASW/ASV Atlantic Squadron.
The rear admiral also has the honour of making the first entry of a frigate in Ormara Naval Harbour.
http://www.dawn.com/2005/05/29/nat50.htm
There is a special Providence in the fall of a sparrow, if it be now, "tis not to come, if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be now, yet it will come, the readiness is all. [Hamlet]
Military Procurement International
Pakistan offered three ex-Royal Navy Type 23 frigates
Pakistan Navy Chief-of-Staff Admiral Shahid Karimullah said during a visit to the UK on May 16 that Britain had offered to sell three ex-Royal Navy Type 23 frigates to Pakistan. “We have shown interest,” he said. “We are now going to discuss the funding aspect, the price aspect and, once that has been completed, then a final decision can be taken.”
Admiral Karimullah added that the focus of his discussions with Britain’s First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Alan West, was on “the training aspect, because the maximum training required by the Pakistan Navy is from the Royal Navy.”
The RN withdrew the first of its 16 Type 23 frigates, HMS Norfolk (F230), from service at end-March this year. According to a written answer by Armed Forces Minister Adam Ingram on March 21, Norfolk is to be followed into retirement later this year by HMS Marlborough (F233), and by HMS Grafton (F80) in 2006. The next two Type 23 retirements, of HMS Argyll (F231) and HMS Lancaster (F229), are not planned until 2019. HMS Iron Duke (F234) is scheduled to be decomissioned in 2020, followed in 2021 by HMS Monmouth (F235), HMS Montrose (F236) and HMS Westminster (F237).
The Belgian Navy is also negotiating to acquire two Type 23 frigates, reportedly HMS Marlborough and HMS Grafton, in a deal estimated to be worth £164 million (E240 million / US$309 million), to replace its last two Wielingen class frigates. And the Chilean Navy has expressed a strong interest in buying all three of the first Type 23s being decomissioned.
The 4,900t Type 23 frigates, all commissioned between 1990 and 2002, are powered by Combined Diesel-Electric and Gas Turbine (CODLAG) propulsion systems, giving a top speed of 28kts and a range of 7,800nmi at 15kts.
Armament includes: two quadruple Boeing Harpoon Anti-Ship Missile launchers; a 32-cell MBDA Vertical Launch Seawolf Surface-to-Air Missile system; a BAE Systems 4.5in (114mm) Mk8 gun; two DES/MSI 30mm close range cannon; and two Cray Marine twin torpedo tubes for BAE Systems Stingray Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) torpedoes.
Each frigate also has a landing deck and hangar for an AgustaWestland Lynx Mk8 helicopter, armed with MBDA Sea Skua Anti-Ship Missiles, Stingray ASW torpedoes, Mk11 depth charges and machine guns. © DAPSS S.A., 2005, Switzerland
Omani Commander calls on President
RAWALPINDI, Jun 1 (APP): Commander of Omani Royal Navy Rear Admiral Salim Bin Rashid Al Alawi, currently on an official visit to Pakistan called on the President General Pervez Musharraf here Wednesday.
During the call, the President recalled the fraternal relations between Oman and Pakistan, particularly between the Armed Forces of the two countries and underscored the need for further strengthening these ties. He wished the visiting dignitary a fruitful and comfortable stay in the country.
Rear Admiral Salim Bin Abdullah Bin Rashid Al Alwi thanked the Government of Pakistan and Pakistan Navy for extending exemplary hospitality to him and the members of his delegation. He expressed his resolve for further strengthening the already existing excellent relations between the Navies of Oman and Pakistan.
http://www.app.com.pk/n32.htm
There is a special Providence in the fall of a sparrow, if it be now, "tis not to come, if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be now, yet it will come, the readiness is all. [Hamlet]
Pakistan Observer
Pakistan considering to purchase Type-23 Frigates from UK
John Thakur Das
Karachi—Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Shahid Karimullah Thursday said the role of Pakistan Navy to counter terrorism operations in the region has been acknowledged and appreciated internationally as its fleet units have created deterrence against nefarious elements and acted force multipliers for coalition forces in the Arabian Sea.
According to Inter Services Public Relations Directorate in Karachi the remarks of Naval Chief came after his recent successful visit of United Kingdom and South Africa.
Shahid Karimullah said his talks with the British counterpart Admiral Sir Alan West First Sea Lord proved very fruitful as Pakistan Navy looks forward to acquire Type-23 Frigates from UK and negotiations for purchase will commence once inspection and evaluation of these ships is done. He also discussed various training aspects after visiting British Fleet Units and held meetings with senior naval officers including Gen. Robert Fry, CBE Deputy Chief of the Defence Staff.
During his visit of South Africa Chief of the Naval Staff held discussions with his countperpart primarily focused on sale of South African military hardware specially Data Link, EW and command and control systems to Pakistan Navy. It was agreed to enhance cooperation in the training areas and prospect of technical collaboration for the benefit of both.
During the visit the Naval Chief called on Secretary of Defence Masilela and Deputy Minister of Defence Lekota and visited department of Denel Aerospace Systems and Man Serro Stall where production and marketing of Type-209 submarine is taking place. The Naval Chief during the tour also visited various fleet units and training establishments of South African navy.
At the airport the Naval Chief was received by Vice Admiral Afzal Tahir, Megon Govender Charge-d’ Affaires, South Africa and senior naval officers.
As reported Pakistan is receiving the Hrpoon Block II version of the Harpoon. Looks like that this missile will have GPS antennae and software from Boeing's Standoff Land Attack Missile (SLAM) and SLAM Expanded Response (SLAM ER) integrated into the guidance section. Here is the info on this particular version of Harpoon:Mohsin: But seriously I doubt if were getting the Er etc versions
The Harpoon Block II is an upgrade program to improve the baseline capabilities to attack targets in congested littoral environments. The upgrade is based on the current Harpoon. Harpoon Block II provides accurate long-range guidance for coastal, littoral and blue water ship targets by incorporating the low cost integrated Global Positioning System/Inertial Navigation System (GPS/INS) from the Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) program. GPS antennae and software from Boeing's Standoff Land Attack Missile (SLAM) and SLAM Expanded Response (SLAM ER) has been integrated into the guidance section. The improved littoral capabilities enables Harpoon Block II to impact a designated GPS target point. The existing 500 pound blast warhead will deliver lethal firepower against targets which include coastal anti-surface missile sites and ships in port. For the anti-ship mission, the GPS/INS provides improved missile guidance to the target area. The accurate navigation solution allows target ship discrimination from a nearby land mass using shoreline data provided by the launch platform. These Block II improvements will maintain Harpoon's high hit probability while offering a 90% improvement in the separation distance between the hostile threat and local shorelines. Harpoon Block II is capable of deployment from all platforms which currently have the Harpoon Missile system by using existing command and launch equipment. A growth path is envisioned for integration with the Vertical Launch System and modern integrated weapon control systems.
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Can Harpoon II bring down an aircraft carrier ?
It all depends where the harpoon strikes.
H Khan
Pakistanis (irrespective of their standing in society) exult gossip, paranoia, superstition, and conspiracy theories more than the science of history- H Khan
A hit at the right place can make an ACC unoperational but I doubt it can sink it as the warhead is too small. However, if it hits the armoury or fuel it can create significant damage that could cause the ACC to sink. An unoperational ACC on the open seas is as good a dead.
A tactical nuclear warhead attached to a harpoon could surely strike out an indian aircraft carrier
Could a nuclear strick on a an aircraft carrier create a mini Tsunami?
Three-way race for UK Type 23 frigates
By Richard Scott
Belgium, Chile and Pakistan are vying to acquire three UK Royal Navy (RN) Type 23 frigates being offered for sale overseas as a result of force reductions announced in 2004. All three nations are pursuing negotiations with the UK Ministry of Defence's Disposals Services Agency (DSA), now part of the Defence Logistics Organisation, with a final decision on the ships' sale expected within the next few months.
Chile has long been viewed as the most likely buyer for the Type 23s, having expressed a strong interest in acquiring all three ships being paid off by the RN and being first to the negotiating table. However, while the Chilean Navy has remained keen to pursue an acquisition, government delays in approving funding have seen Belgium and Pakistan enter the fray.
Informed sources have told JNI that the three putative deals all have competing merits according to their immediate sale value, the long-term value to UK industry and the 'defence diplomacy' benefit to the UK government. As a result, it is anticipated that a final decision on the sale will be taken at ministerial level.
http://www.janes.com/regional_news/a...0603_1_n.shtml
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Seems like PN has finalized the design of the F-22P that they're going to build.
Finalized design
-Assad
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