United Arab Emirates: These Kids Were To Be Sold As Camel Jockeys.

[MohammedA]

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES: THESE KIDS WERE TO BE SOLD AS CAMEL JOCKEYS.


DUBAI - Police in Pakistan have foiled a bid to smuggle five young children into the United Arab Emirates (UAE) where they were to be sold as illegal camel jockeys.
Human-rights groups estimate that at least 30 children are kidnapped in Pakistan every month and smuggled to the Gulf state where they are used in the traditional sport of camel racing, according to The Times newspaper of London.
The three boys and two girls, aged between three and seven, were being prepared to board a flight from Islamabad to Dubai on Sunday night with a couple posing as their parents when officials became suspicious.
'When they arrived near the immigration counter, the children started crying,' said immigration officer Gulzar Ahmed.
'The couple tried to console the children but we doubted from their body language that they were the real parents.'
Two other suspects, believed to be part of a cartel supplying camel jockeys to the Gulf, were detained outside the terminal where they were waiting for the flight to take off before telephoning contacts in the UAE.
(c) 2002 Singapore Press Holdings Limited.

[nausherwan]

I say, kick these b****rds out of Pakistan. First they were after our environment, killing our endangered species and now they are after out women and children. If they can kick us out of the gulf every now and then, why can't we???

[zia ul haq]

Asalaamo-a-laikum.

Well, if Pakistanis were not willing to co-operate with them in these crimes they wouldn't happen would they.

After all it is most likely Pakistanis doing the kidnapping and smuggling.

Unfortunately where is there is poverty and a lack of iman we will continue to have situations like this.

[Ash]

Originally posted by zia ul haq
Asalaamo-a-laikum.

Well, if Pakistanis were not willing to co-operate with them in these crimes they wouldn't happen would they.

After all it is most likely Pakistanis doing the kidnapping and smuggling.

Unfortunately where is there is poverty and a lack of iman we will continue to have situations like this.

It takes two to tango.

Put it another way if these filthy rich Arabs full of Imam were not offering money for this filthy disgusting trade, then there would be no need for these crimes to happen in the first place, YES.

I am sure you will come and agree that any Arab or Pakistani involved in this trade is the lowest form of life, and even a lower form of life is one that defends either of the parties in this disgusting trade.



Salaam



Ash

[zia ul haq]

Asalaamo-a-laikum.

Of course it takes two to tango Ash. That was not my point.

My point being that the crimes could not take place if there was not a whole host of people willing to do the dirty work in Pakistan.

You can't just blame the fact on rich 'Ayrabs' offering vast amounts of money. That merely means there is no room for a person to be poor and be a good person. It is a very mercantalist view that suggests people will do anything for cash which we know is not true. Don't we?

[Ash]

Originally posted by zia ul haq
Asalaamo-a-laikum.

Of course it takes two to tango Ash. That was not my point.

My point being that the crimes could not take place if there was not a whole host of people willing to do the dirty work in Pakistan.

You can't just blame the fact on rich 'Ayrabs' offering vast amounts of money. That merely means there is no room for a person to be poor and be a good person. It is a very mercantalist view that suggests people will do anything for cash which we know is not true. Don't we?

Yes, whole hosts of people have to be involved this happen to be mainly filthy disgusting ARABS and Pakistanis. These disgusting fithy rich Arabs should follow the example of the Sahabs who used all there wealth on the poor, to help the poor and not to use them for there own enjoyment. For helping the poor and the needy is way of the Prophet PBUH. Isn’t?


We also know that these disgusting rich Arabs despite there wealth and understanding of Islamic principles prefer to spend there money on buying children rather than following the way of the Prophet PBUH.

On this basis you are right some rich filthy Arabs will do anything for cash, why buy children, if there was no form of gain. Unless I have got it wrong, is this is how these particular Arabs give charity? Please accept my apology on my misunderstanding, on how certain Arabs give charity.

Salaam




Ash



Salaam



Ash

[zia ul haq]

Asalaamo-a-laikum.

Ash, you can carry on blaming others for your own problems.

I'm not going to waste my time with a small minded bigot.

[Ash]

Originally posted by zia ul haq
Asalaamo-a-laikum.

Ash, you can carry on blaming others for your own problems.

I'm not going to waste my time with a small minded bigot.

I have no problems and I have not discussed any of my problems, so what you are harping on about I do not know.

You are the one as you are going to the nth degree in protecting rich Arabs, whilst i am condemning both parties rich Arabs and the poor Pakistanis.


I come from a world where small-minded bigot is one who defends the rich and puts the blame on to the doorstep of the poor. Instead of blaming and critiquing both parties equally.

Zia you without realizing it are a fully paid up member of the SMALL MINDED BIGOT CLUB and that is with out even having to contribute a single penny for membership. Nice one zia.




Salaam




Ash

[Shoaib]

Assalamu aleikum,

Ash the problem is that reading your post one would think that rich Arabs and only poor pakistanis participate in this horrible traffic. While I agree that the whole idea of using kids as camel jockeys is sick, I at the same time must say that the pakistani smugglers, who by the way are not exactly poor, are just as much to blame ...

But cant you two just agree one something like 'this is a sick trade, and anyone involved in it is guilty' ... the problem, like most problem is just too complex to be narrowed down to its all the fault of X group.

W'salam

[Ash]

Originally posted by Shoaib
Assalamu aleikum,

Ash the problem is that reading your post one would think that rich Arabs and only poor pakistanis participate in this horrible traffic. While I agree that the whole idea of using kids as camel jockeys is sick, I at the same time must say that the pakistani smugglers, who by the way are not exactly poor, are just as much to blame ...

But cant you two just agree one something like 'this is a sick trade, and anyone involved in it is guilty' ... the problem, like most problem is just too complex to be narrowed down to its all the fault of X group.

W'salam

I agree with you Shoaib, its the way that Zia puts the blame onto Just the Pakistani. I find this ridicules. Both parties are at fault 100%, none is better than the other in this matter, simply as you said it is a sick trade, no question about it.


Salaam



Ash

[zia ul haq]

Asalaamo-a-laikum.

Ash, as other members of the forum have pointed out learn to read and understand English.

My point was that if it were not for the collusion of Pakistanis in this 'trade' it would not happen in Pakistan. No matter how rich the 'Ayrabs' were they would not get far if nobody was willing to help them.

To a person with such small, enclosed mind such as yourself this might sound like support for the 'Ayrabs' you love to villify and blame for uncounted 'evils' but it is not. It may also sound like I am placing the blame solely on Pakistanis but that is not the case either.

Learn to think before you respond please.

[Ash]

Originally posted by zia ul haq
Asalaamo-a-laikum.

Ash, as other members of the forum have pointed out learn to read and understand English.

My point was that if it were not for the collusion of Pakistanis in this 'trade' it would not happen in Pakistan. No matter how rich the 'Ayrabs' were they would not get far if nobody was willing to help them.

To a person with such small, enclosed mind such as yourself this might sound like support for the 'Ayrabs' you love to villify and blame for uncounted 'evils' but it is not. It may also sound like I am placing the blame solely on Pakistanis but that is not the case either.

Learn to think before you respond please.

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Previously you said:

Well, if Pakistanis were not willing to co-operate with them in these crimes they wouldn't happen would they.

After all it is most likely Pakistanis doing the kidnapping and smuggling.

Unfortunately where is there is poverty and a lack of iman we will continue to have situations like this.

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So what you meant to say was that where there is poverty and a lack of Imam amongst these particular rich Arabs and the Pakistanis who are involved in this sick trade, we will continue to have situations like this.

What you were implying was that you will only have this situation where there was poverty and the lack of imam, meaning amongst the poor Pakistanis thus absolving the rich Arabs.

What you are saying is totally different from what you are implying, as they say in the West “Engage Brian before using keyboard”





I have nothing against Arabs. I despise Arab, Pakistani or anyone who is RACIST or who uses the poor for the there own means.

As you are indeed a very small-minded person who assumes a lot. Like Sadams assuming the Mother of all Battles, you are indeed doing one better i.e. assuming the mother of all assumption.

I criticize Pakistani more than any other people. If you care to look at all my missives, you will notice that.


Salaam





Ash

[Ash]

Originally posted by zia ul haq
Asalaamo-a-laikum.

My point was that if it were not for the collusion of Pakistanis in this 'trade' it would not happen in Pakistan. No matter how rich the 'Ayrabs' were they would not get far if nobody was willing to help them.

Your above statements is presented in such a fashion that it is absolving the arabs.

Lets put it this way i am willing to accept the above statement ONLY on the grounds that you are willing to accept the statement below, if you are not, then it shows your TRUE NATURE. Need i say more.


It can also be said that if it were not for the collusion of rich Araybs in this 'trade' it would not happen in Pakistan.

No matter what offers these Pakistani made, they would not get any money as they the rich Araybs were not willing to give any money to participate in this sick trade.



Salaam




Ash