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MohammedA
12-06-2001, 08:41 AM
PAK DENIES PERMISSION TO PLANE CARRYING INDIAN TROOPS OF.


UNIFIL
New Delhi, Dec 5 (PTI) Pakistan authorities Wednesday night abruptly denied overflight permission to United Nations Chartered Aircraft carrying Indian contingents of the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) back home from Beirut.
The Jordanian Captain of the UN Flight said he was denied permission to enter Pakistani air space over flying Karachi just 10-minutes from entering the Pakistan air space from Iran.
The aircraft was carrying over 230 troops of the Gorkha Batallion who were coming back after one year stint in Lebanon.
The Pilot of the aircraft had to change its course and fly over Arabian Sea leading to two hours delay in arrival here.
The UN aircraft flying from India and carrying Indian troops of the UNIFIL Contingent normally overfly Pakistani air space through and fro from Beirut.
(c) 2001 Asia Pulse Pte Limited.

rajkumar
12-06-2001, 09:40 AM
Whats the reason for this?

A Haider
12-06-2001, 10:17 AM
India=enemy

Fahad
12-06-2001, 10:44 AM
short and sweet huh Hamza;)
well, Pakistans decisions are always good. there must be a bigger reason for this.

rajkumar
12-06-2001, 11:00 AM
So Pakistan is unable to distinguish between blue helmeted peace keepers and kakhi dressed enemy. Talk about being petulant

Sultan
12-06-2001, 11:14 AM
So Pakistan is unable to distinguish between blue helmeted peace keepers and kakhi dressed enemy. Talk about being petulant

The mere fact that Indian soldiers are wearing a blue helmet doesnt change a thing in regards to the situation between Pakistan and India. Upholding the national security of Pakistan is the prime concern for Pak security forces and if it means keeping out u Indians, from our airspace, for whatever reason then so be it!!

Pakistan has the right, being a sovereign nation, to deny the passage of any plane over its airspace, even if they are wearing blue helmets!!!!! India doesnt rule the subcontinent just yet Raj, so drop the arrogant attitude!

AkramIshaqKhan
12-06-2001, 11:15 AM
RajKumar - Let me give you a better one.
How about maybe an unarmed propellar plane, carrying 17 trainees.

JK.

Maruf29
12-06-2001, 11:17 AM
"So Pakistan is unable to distinguish between blue helmeted peace keepers and kakhi dressed enemy. Talk about being petulant"

I think India would have done the same, do you agree?

Maruf

A Haider
12-06-2001, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by jkhan
RajKumar - Let me give you a better one.
How about maybe an unarmed propellar plane, carrying 17 trainees.

JK.


+ that atlantic aircraft was In Pakistani Airspace,
actually we should have let that indian un aircraft inside Pakistan, then shot it down, saying that it is a bomber aircraft.
Fahad well what could i have said else:)

Fahad
12-06-2001, 11:34 AM
i think Jkhan was talking about the Pakistan Atlantic, that was shot down.

rajkumar
12-06-2001, 11:45 AM
Maruf29

I think India would have done the same, do you agree?

I hope not. I don't know if Pakistani troops on UN duty have ever gone through Indian air space. I cannot think of a instance but I could be wrong. If GoI has ever done this then IMO it was very stupid. I think people need to distinguish between UN peace keeping duties and attack by enemy forces.

Pakistan has the full right to allow access or not to allow access to her airspace but if Pakistan has a new policy in place then it should have refused the flight plan as soon as it was filed by the pilot. Why wait till 10 minutes before the plane is due to enter the airspace? This looks very reactive to me.

I also don't understand the reference to propeller driven aircraft by other forum members.

Gul Khan
12-06-2001, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by rajkumar
So Pakistan is unable to distinguish between blue helmeted peace keepers and kakhi dressed enemy. Talk about being petulant

If they are part of Indian armed forces they are terrorist. And beside how do you know terrorist were not carrying anthrax...

yasser
12-06-2001, 12:27 PM
rajkumar

We lost 17 men from our good navy , in PAKISTAN AIR SPACE, you are lucky the Pakistanis denied you permission, if it had been me, I would have just orderd the PAF to shoot down your plan of Gurhkas...........

majithia
12-06-2001, 01:31 PM
Rajukumar/LakamRajuKumar

The time I am talking about,and probably you were not born, and if you were born thru the tragic times of 1971, you may be running around in your Kachha somewher in TamilNadu.:D :) :D :)

Your very own Indian govt blocked PIA interwing flights which Pakistan had rights to overfly thru internaional conventions and laws for some goddamn excuse and logic given by your own Prime minister Indira Gandhi.

What do you say to that? And don't come back with your twisted logic laced with crap to justify your govt actions why and what happened 30 years ago :p :p. I know all about that and I will give you an earful(to take the wax out)in case you dare:D :) :D

cheers

majithia

SyedA
12-06-2001, 01:57 PM
jack is gone!!!!

Gulstan
12-06-2001, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by rajkumar
So Pakistan is unable to distinguish between blue helmeted peace keepers and kakhi dressed enemy. Talk about being petulant

It would appear we are catching the Hindian disease, though we have yet to confuse 11 guys dressed in white wiht Khakis:p :p :p

Maisum Ali
12-07-2001, 05:13 PM
Brittish Intelligence dismisses Indian BS

London, Dec 7

British intelligence have dismissed a confession by a suspected al-Qaeda follower held in India that the network planned to crash aeroplanes into the British parliament, the Daily Telegraph said Friday.

Authorities in India alerted Britain, the United States and Australia after arresting a trainee pilot who said al-Qaeda had sent suicide squads to all four countries, Bombay's police commissioner said Friday.

The paper said suspect Mohammad Afroz Abdul Razzak was alleged to have claimed eight people planned to hijack flights from London to Manchester, England, on September 11 and crash them into parliament and London's Tower Bridge.

But British intelligence sources told the daily they had investigated and ruled out many of the allegations against Razzak, and one source suggested his confession may have been coerced.

Indian intelligence has been "peddling a lot of funny stories" in recent months, the source told the Daily Telegraph.

Razzak was picked up by Mumbai police on October 2 and formally arrested a day later.

Scotland Yard told AFP that it was in contact with India's High Commission in London over the matter and through it with police in India.

Britain's Channel 4 News reported that Razzak joined the Cabair college of air training in Bedfordshire, central England, at the end of August, apparently paying a sizeable deposit for a year-long residential course.

He failed to turn up for classes on September 17 and was reported to police as a missing person.

Graham Austin, Cabair's chief executive, said: "It is an unpleasant set of circumstances to face, that you may have had a hand in training somebody who had such questionable intent."

The al-Qaeda network, led by wanted militant Osama bin Laden, is one of the targets of a two-month-old US bombing campaign in Afghanistan launched after the hijacked plane attacks of September 11 in New York and Washington.

Gaf
12-08-2001, 12:25 PM
Indian intelligence has been "peddling a lot of funny stories" in recent months, the source told the Daily Telegraph

There's no "beating around the bush with that statement".... :p